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Audio file 32-2

unknown narrator, Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Until 14:44, Wonga and Ernest discuss the Romantics and the relationship to the French Revolution. They are joined by a…

ca.1990-2002 (8-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Wonga proposes a structure for the interviews. They begin with Ernest's father and grandfather [they speak in both Fren…

ca.1990-2002 (11-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest and Wonga Mancoba discuss the value of art. Likely following file: 13-1About the recordings: Ernest Mancoba's so…

Ca.1990-2002 (13-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Likely preceding file: 11-1. Ernest and Wonga continue their discussion on art and Wonga sets an objective for the fami…

Ca.1990-2002 (13-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Preceding file: 13-1. Even though Wonga continues his rumination on how to approach the narration of Ernest's memoire, …

Ca.1990-2002 (15-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest and Wonga discuss Surrealism and Dada.About the recordings: Ernest Mancoba's son, Marc also known as Wonga, reco…

ca.1990-2002 (Audio file 18-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest recalls 2 incidences of betrayal by peoples from whom he expected solidarity - at Drancy World War II internment…

ca.1990-2002 (20-1)

unknown narrator, Ejler Bille, Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest and Wonga are joined by Ejler Bille (and an unknown male): they speak of individual freedom versus social respon…

ca.1990-2002 (20-2)

unknown narrator, Ejler Bille, Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Conversation with Ejler Bille continues from 20-1, they discuss the evolution of artAbout the recordings: Ernest Mancob…

Ca.1990-2002 (31-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest considers Surrealism's engagement with Freud and psychoanalysis and expresses his admiration for Max Ernst's col…

Ca.1990-2002 (31-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Ernest explains how he learned of European art whilst in South Africa [this recording is in a mix of French and English…

ca.1990-2002 (33-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

They speak of Ernest's beginnings in art in South Africa; he speaks of his lived experience and African spirituality (m…

ca.1990-2002 (33-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Continuation of conversation from 33-1, Ernest goes on to speak of Guillaume's "Primitive Negro Sculptures" (1929) book…

ca.1990-2002 (Audio file 38-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

In the first part, they continue their discussion on the impact of religion on Africa; in the second part, they turn to…

ca.1990-2002 (46-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba, Clarisse Penso

In the first part, Wonga and Ernest speak of the Danish avant-garde during and after World War II; in the second part, …

Ca.1990-2002 (46-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba, Clarisse Penso

The first 9 minutes concludes an interview of Clarisse Penso begun in file 46-1. The remainder of the file covers Ernes…

Ca.1990-2002 (47-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

They discuss Ernest's imprisonment in St Denis camp during World War II; conversation continues 47-2About the recording…

ca.1990-2002 (47-2)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Continuing from 47-1, they speak of Ernest's imprisonment in St Denis camp; they speak of Sonja Ferlov's "Skulptur" (19…

ca.1990-2002 (Audio 48-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

Wonga asks Ernest about seeing African art for the first time at the British Museum. They speak of difference between W…

Ca.1990-2002 (49-1)

Ernest Mancoba, Wonga Mancoba

They speak of Ernest's passage from South Africa to England. The conversation continues on 49-2. (Also refer Ernest's d…