Audio file 47-1

[tape starts in midst of a conversation] Wonga is asking about two fellow prisoners, Weinfeld and Milosz; Wonga shares what he has learnt about Weinfeld - a student at Bauhaus and an inventor of musical instruments

Internet search places Weinfeld at St Denis camp (chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://archives.saintdenis.fr/data/files/saintdenis.diffusion/images/pdf/AMSD93_CampBritanniques_20170814.pdf)

Wonga digresses to explain the Bauhaus to Ernest [mentions Klee, Kandinsky and Gropius]; Wonga continues about the filmmaker Fritz Lang and his film "M" which Sonja Ferlov liked but Ernest cannot remember; [tape stopped and restarts] Wonga returns to the Bauhaus but digresses about authoritarianism and technology

Wonga returns to Weinfeld and Ernest tries to recall their friendship in the internment camp and visiting Weinfeld in his country home after the war ended; Ernest also recalls Mme Weinfeld

the photo they are speaking of may be one in the family archive and printed on p.40 of the biography "Lifeline out of Africa: the art of Ernest Mancoba" by Elza Miles, 1994, Human & Rousseau

Wonga asks about Smith, a fellow prisoner at St Denis internment camp: Smith spoke German, English and French and worked in the storehouse distributing blankets and utensils to incoming prisoners; Smith was Black and Ernest believes came from Cameroon

Wonga is diverted and comments that Cameroon's language uniquely incorporates European languages; Ernest proposes Fanakalo, spoken in South Africa, also comes from a mix of colonial languages

Fanakalo or Fanagalo is a vernacular language adopted by miners who came from many different African peoples

Switching topics, Wonga asks Ernest to elaborate about jazz [references Louis Armstrong and Arthur Briggs whom Ernest met in the internment camp] and his friend and fellow student at Grace Dieu, Edgar Poswayo; Ernest starts to sing "Chicago ; [tape stopped and restarts] Ernest starts another song but Wonga interrupts

"Chicago (That Toddlin' Town)" written by Fred Fisher in 1922

[tape stopped and restarts] Wonga asks about Ernest and Sonja's marriage whilst in St Denis camp and the circumstance in which the German soldier gave them the photo he had taken of them to commemorate the event

various legal documents on their marriage are digitised: 29 Apr 1942 St Denis allows their marriage; 21 May 1942 civil service marriage certificate

the mentioned photos are in the family archive and on page 38 of the biography "Lifeline out of Africa: the art of Ernest Mancoba", by Elza Miles, 1994, Human & Rousseau

[tape stopped and restarts] Ernest recalls their prison windows being broken from an exploding bomb and glass falling upon his bed

Wonga asks about civilians living around St Denis, Ernest explains the prisoners and the civilians could see each other and waved to each other in encouragement

Wonga asks about Sonja visiting, and Ernest tries to provide details to Wonga's probing - on frequency, timing and location

[tape ends, continues 47-2]