Ferlov Mancoba
Audio 81-2
[continues from 81-1] Ernest speaks of exploitation of black people - in both slavery and use of art; Wonga continues, with Ernest agreements
[tape stopped and restarted] Ernest recounts Christian Poulsen being his English translator at the Paris art school, Poulsen offered to introduce him to Ejler Bille; Ernest & Wonga discuss the location of Bille's studio and that Erwin Graumann's was in the same complex
Ernest tells Bille about the segregation of blacks in South Africa; Bille tells Ernest of a Danish sculptor, Sonja Ferlov; Ernest continues, meets Ferlov Mancoba who speaks of her fascination with African sculptures which she knew from Carl Kjersmeier's collection
Ernest visits Ferlov Mancoba's studio at Rue Moulin Vert with Poulsen; Ernest mentions Rita Gueyfier - who had her studio above Ferlov Mancoba's
Sonja Ferlov's studio was in Alberto Giacomett's complex
Wonga asks which sculptures Ernest remembers seeing in Ferlov Mancoba's studio, but Ernest is unable to recall; [tape stopped and restarted] Ernest speaks of Ferlov Mancoba's sculptures seeking new direction, not copying African art but feeling it
after expressing frustration with each other, Ernest describes the light in Ferlov Mancoba's studio; Wonga's prompts to Ernest turns into his own interpretation of Ferlov Mancoba's work
Ernest says he felt a spiritual connection to Ferlov Mancoba's works, that they made him feel "at home"; Wonga supplies more details, Ernest agrees
Wonga comments on other artists who do not have same respect for African art; Ernest complains of the art academies influenced by Christianity, and Wonga disagrees that it's only due to Christian influence
Facts
PDFAbout the recordings: Ernest Mancoba's son, Marc also known as Wonga, recorded interviews with his father. The interviews seemed to serve different purposes and are not in chronological order.
Ca.1990-2002 (81-2)
- Rue Moulin Vert, Paris